Thursday, March 29, 2012

Paris This Weekend

My boyfriend and I are taking our first trip this weekend!!! Which should say a lot if i share we have been together for over 2 years!! Anyway enough of my poor life, we are going to Paris! We are staying in Monmartre and i wondered if anyone knew where i might find local events or attractions taking place this weekend. We arrive on Thursday morning and leave Sunday lunchtime. Also any restaurants in the monmartre area that are cheap but definately cheerful, with perhaps a smattering of romance or fun - don%26#39;t ask for much do I!





By the way if it makes a difference I am scots and he%26#39;s canadian (which means keep the cost down)and we are in our 30%26#39;s (which means keep the noise to a medium level!!)



Thanks,




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Monmartre is full of romance and fun; here are a few restaurant suggestions: La Mascotte, 52, rue des Abbesses, - especially great oysters, A La Pomponette, 42, rue Lepic, - excellent bistro, charming atmosphere, Chez Ginette, 101, rue Caulaincourt--more of a bar/bistro, nice ambience, good specials; check blackboard, Le Petit Caboulot, 6 place Jacques-Fromet--superbe duck confit %26amp; tarte Tatin of apple or pear, and also perhaps even less expensive, Au Rendez-Vous des Chauffeurs at 11, re des Portes Blanches. Bon Appetit!




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Your best bet for finding out what%26#39;s happenning in Paris for this week-end will simply be to pick up a copy of PARISCOIPE and or ZURBAN--http://www.zurban.com/ at almost any news stand when you arrive (they may also be available at newsstands at your UK departure airport).





For concerts and other events you can also check the FNAC web site-- www.fnacspectacles.com/… (the site is in French...but with a little patience and perserverance you can figure it out).





Also check--



TIME OUT-Paris-- http://www.timeout.com/paris/





PARIS INFO-- http://www.parisinfo.com/





Since the EUROSTAR, an active week-end, cross-channel %26#39;..club hopper..%26#39; scene has developped between the two cities, so you might also find a fair amount of %26#39;..What%26#39;s Hot %26amp; What%26#39;s Not..%26#39; in your London newspapers and magazines.

Working/Studying in Paris or Nice..I need some advice..

Hello All,





I have been reading most of the posts regarding finding employment in Paris and it seems like it%26#39;s going to be a tough one for me. I expected that!!!





I was aware that rent is especailly expensive in Paris but that%26#39;s big city life.





I am currently enrolled in a French program with Alliance Francais , Toronto and i wanted to spend 1 yr working/continuing my studies in Paris. The Canadian government has an exchange program for youths (16-35yr) which invloves working and studying in France up to 12mths.





Are there any Canadians/anyone who have used this program? Is the process fairly straightforward?



How%26#39;s life in Paris? Should i look at working somewhere else in France? Nice? Southern France?



I don%26#39;t want a career whilst working in France, i just want to earn a little pocket change. Are bartending jobs, reception jobs easy to find?





I am 26yrs old and i will be travelling by myself.My goal is to be living in France by May 2007 whilst having some intentions of working and attending a French langauge school. Any recommendations? Many posts stated that Alliance was a waste of time....Anymore advice.





I really appreciate all the real life expereinces and i look forward to hearing from you veterans soon.





Much Thanks, Toronto girl 11




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If you come on a student visa, then you will have an easier time of it. There are plenty of Maid%26#39;s Rooms throughout the city and a small room/apartment is not impossible. When I was here as a student I would live in those rooms rent-free in exchange for babysitting or language lessons a few hours a week.





As for working, you can check out FUSAC (a magazine with a website) or drop by the American Church upon your arrival. There is also a Canada house, but I don%26#39;t kow if they have postings.





The advantage of the Alliance is that it makes the Student Visa paperwork easier, but this would be true for any accredited education program. The Sorbonne has an excellent program, which I believe is considerably more affordable, but it runs on an academic calendar, so you%26#39;d be looking at a Sept. or July arrival. ANd there is the American University which has interesting classes.




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Hey ,





Thanks so much for the information.Which one of the language schools would you recommend and why. I am currently enrolled in a French program with Alliance - Toronto because i would like to obtain a working knowledge of the lanuguage before my trip to France in 2007.



If i am on a student visa, can i still work? When i say work i mean little odds and ends jobs. I really appreciated your comment with regards to giving language sessions and babysitting in exchange for rent.





Any other pointers that may help me with assessing this move?



Where should i stay in Paris? 14?15?





Much Thanks,



TG11




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If that is of any help, i know a friend from Ecuador who came and settled in Paris as a student enrolled at the Sorbonne classes for foreigners. I am quite sure the classes are good, from September to January or/and from January to May or June i think. Not cheap but affordable




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Hello Everyone,





Thanks again for all the feedback with regards to the different language schools in France. Much appreciated!





If you can think of any other pointers or advice you can give me please feel free to post.





Also, if anyone has moved from a different country to France i would love to chat with you regarding the %26quot;move.%26quot;







Best regards,



TG11

rue Dameront

Looking at an apartment at 27 rue Dameront. Have seen it described as Montmartre, Montmartre area and a %26quot;mixed%26quot; area.



Just wondered if you local experts can elaborate???



Cheers!




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I think you mean %26quot;rue Damrémont%26quot;, which is a nice, lively, relatively upscale Montmartre street. It%26#39;s non touristy, so you%26#39;ll really feel you are a local. Since it is at the beginning of the street, you wouldn%26#39;t feel too isolated. Métro place de Clichy is 10-15 mn away, and you have bus 95, which is quite frequent and goes all the way to the left bank.




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Awesome thanks again for your local advice Bob and I will definately have to brush up on my french b4 arriving in Paris!

1st trip to Paris

I am going with 2 teenagers over Easter break. Should I just book a hotel room and do day sightseeing trips or should we go on an organized tour? We do not speak french Is it safe to walk around and take public transportation? What hotels do you suggest. I would like to do a day trip to Normandy. Is that doable?




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Frankly, you can plan and book your tipalmost as easily on your own. Especially since what you appear to want is probably only a hotel/air package. The city of Paris (at least the parts that you%26#39;re coming to visit) is pretty compact Most touring in and about Paris can be easily figured out on your own--with the help of a good Paris Street map (STREETWISE PARIS).





Doing this isn%26#39;t at all complicated...but it does require investing a bit of time and effort on your part--as well as your children%26#39;s--to get the most out of it. FIRST--go out and purchase that good Paris street map and one or two of many good Paris guidebooks and begin to learn a little something about your destination. SECOND you need to begin to establish your own personal/family travel preferences, priorities, interests, special needs and BUDGET. Budget will often determine the %26#39;..category..%26#39; of hotel to look for. Orienting yourself to the city with the map and guidebooks will also begin to narrow down the area(s) of the city that you think you might like to stay. You can scroll back or SEARCH through the TOPIC %26#39;threads%26#39; on this (and other Paris Travel Forums) to begin to narrow down your focus and begin to discover places and things which %26#39;fit%26#39; with your preferences, etc. In the process you will also learn a great deal about Paris travel. You will also get better directed and more meaningful responses to better questions asked. As an example: %26quot;..Whats a good hotel in Paris for somewhere around $300 per night will get you responses scatter all over the place. But ask the question: %26quot;..What%26#39;s a good 3-star hotel, in the $150-200 range per night with %26#39;triple%26#39; rooms, close to great shopping for the kids and the Louvre and convenient transportation links?...%26quot; and those responses will tend to be better.





As an example, after checking some of the DAYTRIP topic %26#39;threads%26#39; you%26#39;ll have a pretty good idea of what is easily %26#39;..doable..%26#39;...from whom or DIY?...how?...when?... where?...how long?..for how much? You can arrive at informed decisions on at least which of the trips and options are NOT to your liking and which are. Then you can ask directed questions which will get you well directed and much more specific information to %26#39;fit%26#39; you general %26#39;plan%26#39; that you want and need much more quickly and efficiently.





As for walking around central Paris on your own at almost any time of day or night, you will pronbably feel safer and more secure than you might crossing the parking lot of your local mall to your car at closing time. Public transportation is relatively easy to figure out (especially the Metro which has MANY signs as well as color-coded, numbered maps and diagrams scattered about each station, train platform and train car. The system is also relatively inexpensive and %26#39;hop-on / hop--off%26#39; convenient with any of the several transportation pass options. As is getting to and from your Paris hotel from the airport.








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You can find answers to some of your questions in this compilation:





tripadvisor.com/…1921808





No need for an organized tour. Perfectly safe city (usual %26#39;big city precautions%26#39; should be observed); protect your belongings from pickpockets. Please learn basic %26#39;nice%26#39; words in French - it will vastly improve your experience and it%26#39;s fun. (ie. please, thank you, yes, no, sir, madame, hello, goodbye, do you speak English). Daytrip to Normandy is most likely offered by one of the tour groups I%26#39;ve listed in the above thread - but it%26#39;s a veeerrrry long day.





Too many hotels to mention. Please read the forum posts and learn about what hotels appealed to others - go from there. Also, the thread above lists good websites that show hotels with photos, and then you can read reviews of them here on TA.




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hello, i went to paris over the summer and it was a great break. everything over there is expensive and do avoid organized tour. travelling to paris is very easy once u get used to the transport. it was my first time and i got use to it in day two. however, i joiined the tour called %26quot;Paris excursions%26quot;. this was the worst tour i experienced. its expensive and a waste of money because they simply sit you in a coach and drive round paris. Dont expect to be dropped off and explore the place. So AVOID at all cost.




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Hi,


I%26#39;d echo the sentiments of the above posters, but since I visited Paris in July with two teenagers, I can say that safety was not an issue at any point in regards to bringing kids along. We did get lost a few times, but that%26#39;s kind of fun as long as you have a map. You%26#39;ll always be fairly close to a metro stop. Our experiences with the wonderful citizens of Paris were all great except for the metro lady, so make sure you know what you%26#39;re doing before hand since once you%26#39;re there it will be hard to figure out how the system works (even though it is simple). As suggested, speak French -- even if it%26#39;s just a little, and smile and you%26#39;ll be fine (except dealing with the %26quot;metro lady%26quot;).


As far as location to stay, I%26#39;d suggest St. Germain or the Latin Quarter -- arrondissements 5 or 6. We have stayed in other areas, but with kids I think this is your best bet... You%26#39;re absolutely within walking distance of some great attractions and there are plenty of shops, cafes, etc. open in the evenings. Without knowing your budget it%26#39;s hard to recommend a hotel, but there are dozens of good ones in those areas and enough to fit most budgets.


We didn%26#39;t take any organized tours on our last trip other than a day trip to Brugge, Belgium. I have taken a quick two hour bus tour of Paris in the past, and it%26#39;s not a bad idea for a first trip -- maybe the first morning. I wouldn%26#39;t recommend taking any organized tours to any of the major sites -- Eiffel Tower, Notre Dame, Louvre, etc. -- I don%26#39;t think they%26#39;re necessary. Just read up a little before you go to know the history, bring a good guide book or two and you%26#39;ll have a wonderful time.


Regarding the day trip to Normandy.... On a previous trip we have taken a bus tour to Mt St. Michel (in the area) and while it%26#39;s a long day, we found it worthwhile.


You will no doubt have a wonderful time.

Around the world flight

Not sure where to post this but has anyone ever bought one of those around the world tickets where you can land a limited number of times around the world? We were thinking of flying to Australia and it is so expensive, I was wondering about going around the world which you pretty much have to do to get there anyway. In doing a little research I found that American Airlines with their %26quot;One World Alliance%26quot; is just a little more than our quoted price for Australia and we can land in 4 continents and in each one fly within that area 6 times. Of course, this makes for a long length of time. I%26#39;m just wondering if anyone out there has done this and what you thought about the experience. Thanks. Linda




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Hi Linda.





Yes, I%26#39;ve done something like this. There are now a number of companies in the uk who will happily put packages together for you. Personally I feel that for a first time trip of this nature I would pay a little extra so that all my flights and accommodation were pre-booked. In 28 days I visited Hong Kong, Great Barrier Reef 3 day cruise, Alice Springs, Sydney, Fiji and San Francisco, and I wouln%26#39;t have changed a thing!





You have to carefully balance trips like this because you do not want to spend too much time on the plane.




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Just curious - what do you call %26#39;expensive%26#39; Linda?





To go to Paris from Sydney and return we pay up to AUD$2,700, or(very) roughly 1620 euros, in peak season. The lowest possible is around AUD$1700 or 1020 euros if you go in the dead of the Paris winter. Are the fares similar in price if bought in France or do you get better/worse deals?




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Well, out of curiosity I just checked on opodo.fr, and the CDG-Sydney Jan tickets go for about € 1,100 (Emirates), then for € 100 more you get Cathay, Thai, BA. For August, count on € 1,500 to 1,800 (but it%26#39;s very early days, I would suspect that you should add 30 % if you book only a few months ahead). These prices are all taxes included.





Which is kinda cheap, if you consider that flying to Brazil or Argentina, %26quot;only%26quot; 12 to 13 hours, will cost you at least as much.




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Bob, those prices are amazingly similar, however it is really odd that Europeans get the cheaper flights out here during OUR summer - ie, the better time to come. Peak/low seasons must be based on the northern hemisphere travel patterns rather than on the desirability of the season at your destination???





Linda, while I%26#39;ve never done the round world flight, I always promise myself on return that NEXT time I%26#39;ll arrange to have more time so that I can break up the flights and not do the whole Europe-Australia trip in one go. Taking only one 8 - 12 hour leg at a time with at least a few days break is so much more manageable.




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I flew with Cathay Paris-Melbourne and Cairns-Paris in november 2003 for 1000 euros!




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CK, come to think of it, the price pattern is logical: airlines don%26#39;t care whether the weather is going to be nice or not at your destination. What they see is that in January people are less willing to travel, because there are no school holidays, they have spent money for Xmas... and it%26#39;s also the height of the business year, so companies are reluctant to let their employees go, especially for a lengthy holiday. And don%26#39;t forget that kids get a two week holiday in Feb/March and that families whose income would enable them to fly to Australia are also likely to rent a place in the Alps to ski. So, all in all, I guess it%26#39;s pretty low season. That said, with the 35 hour week and an average actual retirement age of 57 in France, planes are always full whatever the month!




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Anything over 1000 Euros is expensive to me. A call to one airlines for the cost to Australia from Paris was 1600 Euros. It is almost 800 Euros more for an around the world fare. If I%26#39;m going to go all the way to Australia, why not see some of Malasia, stop over in Hawaii to break up that long flight, stop in the States to see family and then go back to Paris? It sounds like an interesting interprise. I%26#39;m just wondering how exhausting it will be. I%26#39;d love to do it but don%26#39;t want to be gone longer than 2 months or so. Linda




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Lots of Aussies do the round world thing, Linda. I think that as long as you pace yourself while sightseeing it will be fine.



And arriving home after a mere 8 hour plane flight is so much easier, with less time zone adjustment than a 24 hour stretch.





The young lad in our office just got back from his year off travelling the world. He flew in from as close as Fiji and hit the deck running at the the office within a day or two of arrival. I, however, was wrecked for a few weeks following my 12 day trip to Paris - as I didn%26#39;t have the time to stop overnight on the way and had to do the flights straight through.





If you do end up going with the fares to Australia only, then a night or two in Asia as a stop over en route each way makes for a much less exhausting homecoming (but then add some accommodatin $$ so here we are back at the round world option again!).





There%26#39;s a number of long haul travellers on the Australia forum if you want to post your question there also.





Raphy I%26#39;m jealous of that price!!




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Wow, two months, !!!! I would love a two month holiday! I would think that is more then enough time to see three or four countries via the round the world flight, and not be too exhausted.





Lots of planning to do!

Apartment or small hotel in Marais - gay-freindly

My partner and I are going to Paris in March %26#39;06 and would like to stay in Marais or Montmartre. We are a middle-aged gay couple and are looking for quiet accommodations for a week. We are way past the club/cruisy scene so would be looking for a more sedate street in either district (or any other central districts). We are fanatic urban walkers so proximity to Metro is not a big issue. Any other recommendations -- restaurants, shopping, etc.--that are gay-friendly are most welcome although I understand Pars is generally pretty tolerant. I am doing a web search but have learned to trust (and enjoy) the TA%26#39;er forum recommendations. Thanks!




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Hi Hilldeweller!





I would recommend Hotel du Caron de Beaumarchais or Hotel du BourgTibourg. Check them out and see what you think. Both are in the Marais. Most of the fourth is very gay friendly (have you checked gayot.com?)...





Le Petit Prince de Paris is considered a very gay friendly restaurant in the Latin Quarter....





Les




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Hilldweller, you may find most of the Marais a bit too lively for your taste. You must be careful to get a room not overlooking the street or there can be noise problems. Feel free to email me directly at dcgad@aol.com and I can give you some more specific suggestions about the %26quot;scene%26quot; in Paris.




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I agree with Truffaut that the Marias may be too boisterous for what you have in mind. I also wouldn%26#39;t recommend Montmarte just because it%26#39;s not the most convenient neighborhood.





The thing about Paris is that it%26#39;s an extremely gay-friendly city -- as much so as San Francisco -- and you and your beloved will feel comfortable and be accepted without a second thought anywhere. After all, this is a city with a gay Socialist mayor.





I would suggest Ile St. Louis, ot the 6th Arrondissement (St Germain). Or else the 7th These are elegant, well-located areas which are lively without being overwhelmingly so.





As for restaurants, no one will bat an eye at two men having dinner anywhere. My beloved and I were treated with the same courtesy as straight couples at restaurants ranging from L%26#39;Ambroisi and Taillevent to simple neighborhood bistros and Chinese restaurants.





The Time Out guidebook does have special sections dedicated to Gay Paris.




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I would recommend you the Hotel du Marais, in a little calm street. It is a 2 star hotel with moderate prices. Paris is generally gay-friendly, and the Marais is probably even more...This hotel is in the 3rd.



http://www.paris-hotel-marais.com



A friend of mine lived in Paris during 2 years and was used to go to %26quot;Le Tango%26quot;, a gay club(disco).It is in the 3rd too...check on pagesjaunes.fr to have the exact address.



Concerning shopping, aroung Chatelet Les Halles you must find some good and interesting shopping, walk around the streets and you will find!



Have a nice trip!




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Hilldweller,





Montmartre%26#39;s transportation options are not as good as other parts of the city, but it is a lovely area well worth an extra 3-block walk to the metro. You might also consider Batignolles in the 17th or the 9th around St-Georges. These areas have better transportation, but are still away from the touristy areas.




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I%26#39;m not sure that you%26#39;re going to find any G/L/B %26#39;un%26#39;-friendly hotels, restaurants, cafés, clubs, etc. up in 4eme or 3eme-Marais....so I%26#39;m not entirely sure you should have concerns. These are neighborhoods which tend to be pro-actively %26#39;..G/L/B-friendly..%26#39; as a rule (think West Village in NYC). And Paris, as a whole, tends to be much more G/L/B-friendly than most. The neighborhoods of the Marias will certainly suit well enough...but don%26#39;t overlook the other possibioities of Paris in the process.





There are some participants to this forum who have more specific/detailed insights into Paris%26#39; G/L/B community...and you should also probably check some of the more G/L/B directed internet travel sites to expand your information base....and these days, just about every good Paris travel guide offers some form of G/L/B information %26amp; recommendations.




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Many thanks to all the great advice. i will be sure to do a trip summary!




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Hi,





My wife and I found Hotel du Caron de Beaumarchais to be a charming small hotel in a lively, atmospheric area. It goes without saying the 4th is gay friendly. But the area did not have loud or boistrous clubs. The duck at a restaurant up the street from the hotel, Au Gamin (there is more to the name) was excellent and reasonable.





Enjoy




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We stayed in 2002 in a really great apartment in Square Maurice-Gardette (in Marais), I think the owner rents three apartments in the same building. The apartment was just renovated and it was spotless and nicely decorated. There was everything you could think of - the landlady (who was btw the nicest Parisian I met during my trip) had even filled the fridge with orange juice, eggs, a bottle of sparkling wine etc.! The street is really quiet at night and the building is facing a small park.



I don%26#39;t think any hotel in the same price category could offer such accommodation.

Walking around

What are some suggestions for places to walk around? Not necessarily tourist stuff, but markets, etc? Obviously Clingencourt, has anyone been to Rue Moueftard? Do you recommend that?



Thank you!




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look at rue des francs maçons .. , Metro St Paul




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What I would do is go to Montmartre, see Sacre Coeur, yadda yadda, then get lost in its streets. It%26#39;s just gorgeous if you can get past the Place du Tertre hoardes.





I also like to walk around the side streets of the st. germain neighborhood (rue de buci, etc.) Lots of great feel there.





And walk the Marais. IT%26#39;s not all touristy, in fact a lot of tourists never make it there. It%26#39;s beautiful and you run into these great squares, small parks, etc. So nice.





Les




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Much depends on what you consider %26#39;..tourist stuff..%26#39; and your own personal interests. Just about any place of %26#39;..interest..%26#39; will attract %26#39;..tourists..%26#39;.....pretty much just like yourself.





There are any number of %26#39;..interesting..%26#39; places within and around Paris...the Canal Saint Martin area, meandering the streets and stairs up in Montemartre, take the metro out to Belleville and meander about out here, the Sunday Bird Market on Ile de la Cite, etc. I once wound up down in the Buttes aux Cailles section of the 13eme (a neighborhood about as %26#39;..un-touristy..%26#39; as they come in Paris and found meandering about %26#39;..interesting%26#39;. Up in Bellevile there%26#39;s the lovely little parc and the interesting Ecole d%26#39;Architecture de Paris-Belleville among other places) that I found pleasant or interesting. Tastes, interests and mileage may vary.





Why not do a SEARCH using WALKING TOURS as one of your criteria? There are links there to several self-directed walking tours, with descriptions of what you are likely to find along the routes. Perhpas some of these places will attract your particular/peculiar interests and curiousities.





Another way to %26#39;explore%26#39; the city in an unstructured way is to simply ride the Metro. Get off at ANY stop along a ligne and walkabout/explore the neighborhood. Then get back on at any Metro station you come across in your meandering and do it the same thing again. About five Metro stops is my daily limit.




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There are plenty of guide books in English on Paris Walks, even more in French (%26quot;Balades insolites dans Paris%26quot;, two volumes, is one, the Guide du Routard %26quot;Paris Balades%26quot; another one). You have the parks: Buttes Chaumont, Parc de Belleville, André Citroën, La Villette. You have the bits of %26quot;rural%26quot; Paris : La Campagne à Paris, Parc Montsouris, rue de la Mouzaïa. Then the %26quot;passages%26quot; for rainy/cold days. Etc.




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%26lt;%26lt;look at rue des francs maçons .. , Metro St Paul%26gt;%26gt;





Guguk, Could you please narrow that down for me? I%26#39;m a bit map-challenged.




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Why not get a copy of Frommer%26#39;s MEMORABLE WALKS IN PARIS? It covers AREAS that tourists would naturally gravitate toward, but provides info and points out places that the average tourist is unaware of. The Latin Quarter, Ile de la Cite and Montmartre walks are especially informative.




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Rather than travel everywhere by metro, I would suggest going by bus. If you can get a map that indicates bus routes, you can work out some spectacular rides through the city - okay, without a tourist commentary, but at a fraction of the price of a tour. I have a well-worn copy of The Paris Mapguide, published by Penguin, that has accompanied me on at least one visit a year for the last ten years. This shows bus routes. Failing that, just check the maps in bus stops - they%26#39;re very clear.





For Montmartre, I would really recommend the Montmartrobus, which leaves from Place Pigalle, and winds its way around and up and over the hill, and down the other side to the town hall of the 18th arrondissement. It then returns by a slightly different route. It%26#39;s used by locals as well as tourists, and while it%26#39;s not technically a hop-on-and-off bus, you can always get off if the fancy takes you, and then pick it up again (buying another ticket, admittedly) further along the route.




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Chronicle books also makes a deck of cards called %26quot;City Walks%26quot; for Paris...some touristy, some not...they have little maps on the front and directions/info about the neighborhoods on the back




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Here%26#39;s a great web site for self-guided walking tours...



www.parisbalades.com/Autre/defaulte.htm